Dent's (not Reggie's) homer was the game-winning hit. For the short time that GWRBI was official (admittedly after this game), it was defined as the hit that put one team ahead to stay. This is the same run that determines the winning and losing pitchers. If Reggie's homer were truly the game winner, then logically Gossage (not Guidry) should have gotten the win and Stanley (not Torrez) the loss. It makes no sense for a certain run to be the "game-winner," and a completely different run to determine the pitchers of record.
Eh ... I can see it the other way. If a team takes the lead early and never gives it up, but the starting pitcher lasts less than five innings, the "winning pitcher" isn't the guy who was the listed pitcher when the lead was acquired. Things that happen afterwards are considered too.
And in a world that takes itself too seriously, I miss the wacky 80s and GWRBI! Some fun with numbers:
Career leader Keith Hernandez, 129
Single season record: Hernandez, 24 in 1985
Rookie Record: 14 (Canseco '86, Joyner '86, and McGwire '87)
Pitcher season record 3 (Rick Mahler & Rick Rhoden '85)
Most consecutive games with GWRBI 5 Kirk Gibson 7-13-86 to 7-20-86
I did not know that the Bucky f-ing Dent homerun was in the 7th inning. Red Sox fans need to get over that. They had 3 more at bats to win the game, and did score enough runs to overcome the Dent homerun.
Yes they did, and they came darn close. Lou Pinella saved that game not once but twice -- with his great catch off Fred Lynn to end the fifth and his stop of Remy's line-drive single in the ninth -- which he didn't see until it emerged from the grass and the sunlight a few feet from his glove. Lou &*%^)&W(@#^@*(#^ Pinella!
Joe, you outdid yourself. My father's day story is that I complained to my Dad that he had a Father's Day, my Mom had a Mother's Day, but there was no Kid's Day for me. He looked at me and patiently explained that every other day was Kids' Day.
I agree with the person who suggested that the son and father reconcile differences before it's too late. I forgave my Dad for his seeming indifference a few years before he passed. We enjoyed our final years so much.
Being willing to help others when there is no benefit to the helper makes one a compassionate human. Doing so when there is risk to the helper makes one a hero. Now if only Palermo would have called BFD's little fly ball foul, that would have made him a legend!
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To those of you who struggle with Father's Day, whether because you've lost yours or because, like mine, they are unrepentant, thieving, alcoholic, narcissistic sorry excuses for fathers ... well, may this year finally be the one where I'm able to stop holding a grudge and just Let It Go.
Understood and agreed. But knowing the wisdom of something and actually acting on it are - as anyone who has seen my diet & exercise routine or savings account - unfortunately, two very different things.
Enjoying my Father’s Day present, Big Fan, and trying to decide if it is finally safe to let my son out of the bathroom. He went in there at the start of the 2013 Super Bowl and the Seahawks immediately scored on a safety! ❤️
Thank you for finally giving me something to say when I’m asked what I want for Father’s Day (or my birthday for that matter): The ability to be a day-late here and there
Another great Palermo story: He was arguing with Billy Martin, and Martin told him that he was "nothing but a hot-headed Italian."
Palermo responded with, "Um, Billy? What do you think you are?"
Martin laughed so hard he went back to the dugout.
Check out that photo. God, I miss stirrups.
As I write this, Joe’s Stack has exactly 162 Likes. Perfection.
Dent's (not Reggie's) homer was the game-winning hit. For the short time that GWRBI was official (admittedly after this game), it was defined as the hit that put one team ahead to stay. This is the same run that determines the winning and losing pitchers. If Reggie's homer were truly the game winner, then logically Gossage (not Guidry) should have gotten the win and Stanley (not Torrez) the loss. It makes no sense for a certain run to be the "game-winner," and a completely different run to determine the pitchers of record.
Eh ... I can see it the other way. If a team takes the lead early and never gives it up, but the starting pitcher lasts less than five innings, the "winning pitcher" isn't the guy who was the listed pitcher when the lead was acquired. Things that happen afterwards are considered too.
And in a world that takes itself too seriously, I miss the wacky 80s and GWRBI! Some fun with numbers:
Career leader Keith Hernandez, 129
Single season record: Hernandez, 24 in 1985
Rookie Record: 14 (Canseco '86, Joyner '86, and McGwire '87)
Pitcher season record 3 (Rick Mahler & Rick Rhoden '85)
Most consecutive games with GWRBI 5 Kirk Gibson 7-13-86 to 7-20-86
https://www.baseball-almanac.com/recbooks/rb_gwrbi1.shtml
A great story on a great moment in baseball history.
“Red Sox fans need to get over that”
You obviously have never met a Red Sox fan. Even with 4 titles in my lifetime, I’m not getting over that. (Or ‘72, ‘75, ‘86, 03, etc. ) 😃
What a privilege to read your stuff
I did not know that the Bucky f-ing Dent homerun was in the 7th inning. Red Sox fans need to get over that. They had 3 more at bats to win the game, and did score enough runs to overcome the Dent homerun.
Yes they did, and they came darn close. Lou Pinella saved that game not once but twice -- with his great catch off Fred Lynn to end the fifth and his stop of Remy's line-drive single in the ninth -- which he didn't see until it emerged from the grass and the sunlight a few feet from his glove. Lou &*%^)&W(@#^@*(#^ Pinella!
Joe, you outdid yourself. My father's day story is that I complained to my Dad that he had a Father's Day, my Mom had a Mother's Day, but there was no Kid's Day for me. He looked at me and patiently explained that every other day was Kids' Day.
I agree with the person who suggested that the son and father reconcile differences before it's too late. I forgave my Dad for his seeming indifference a few years before he passed. We enjoyed our final years so much.
Joe, that was your BEST post EVER!
Being willing to help others when there is no benefit to the helper makes one a compassionate human. Doing so when there is risk to the helper makes one a hero. Now if only Palermo would have called BFD's little fly ball foul, that would have made him a legend!
...
To those of you who struggle with Father's Day, whether because you've lost yours or because, like mine, they are unrepentant, thieving, alcoholic, narcissistic sorry excuses for fathers ... well, may this year finally be the one where I'm able to stop holding a grudge and just Let It Go.
Might be best to let it go while he is still living rather than wait until after he passes. Even if you never see the sob again.
Understood and agreed. But knowing the wisdom of something and actually acting on it are - as anyone who has seen my diet & exercise routine or savings account - unfortunately, two very different things.
Do it. You know the old saying that hating is like drinking poison and expecting it to hurt the other person?
Lot of truth there.
Forgiveness actually frees up the person doing the forgiving far more than it frees up the forgiven. If you can't do it for him, do it for yourself.
You got this. You made it this far. You got this.
Enjoying my Father’s Day present, Big Fan, and trying to decide if it is finally safe to let my son out of the bathroom. He went in there at the start of the 2013 Super Bowl and the Seahawks immediately scored on a safety! ❤️
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Wonderful story!
Steve Palermo was an inspiration!
Outstanding.
Thank you for finally giving me something to say when I’m asked what I want for Father’s Day (or my birthday for that matter): The ability to be a day-late here and there