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Matt Baron's avatar

Freddie Freeman has some models to follow among the members of that exclusive fraternity, The 3,000-hit club: Tris Speaker, Tony Gwynn and--most notably--Adrian Beltre. All boosted their averages significantly as their careers went along. For Speaker and Gwynn, it was especially tough, since they were already logging high averages.

However, Beltre's average was .272 at this 1,000th hit (the lowest of all 3,000-hit men) and it was only up to .275 when he got his 2,000th hit. Over his next 1,000 hits, he batted .312, or 37 points higher. Remarkable. The only other two 3,000-hit men to go up by as many as 30 points during the 2K-3K span: Speaker (up 30 points, from .339 at 2000 hit-milestone to .369 over his next 1000 hits) and Gwynn (up 32, from .328 at the 2,000 mark, then he hit .360 over his next 1000 hits).

By contrast, Pujols and Ichiro dropped big-time.

Ichiro’s drop during that 2,000-3,000 segment was 54 points (he was batting .334 when he rapped his 2,000th hit, and he batted .280 from that point till he got #3,000). By far, it marked the biggest decline of the first 31 players in the 3,000-hit club.

Thereafter, Pujols wrested that dubious distinction from Ichiro—Pujols was batting .328 for his career when he recorded hit #2,000. In his plodding march to 3,000, he went 1,000-for-3,765 (a .266 average, or 62 points lower than his mark at the 2K milestone).

Yes, I spent dozens of hours doing this research. It's simply what baseball nuts do, right? NONE of it is possible without the awesome resource Retrosheet.org, which enabled me to drill down to the at bat when these players attained the 1K, 2K, 3K and, in Cobb's and Rose's cases, 4K levels.

A few stories I wrote out of all this madness:

https://www.lavidabaseball.com/albert-pujols-clemente-latino-3000-hit-club/

https://www.dailyherald.com/sports/20220423/ex-kane-county-cougar-miguel-cabrera-takes-up-and-down-path-to-3000-hits

Zach Geballe's avatar

I personally would be pretty stunned if Stanton ended up a Hall of Famer. I don't think he's going to get to 500 home runs and even if he does there's almost no way he gets particularly close to the career value thresholds that enough voters look at. Add to that that his most important seasons happened in Miami with relatively little fanfare and that he's basically been a disappointment since coming to New York and I'd honestly think it's more likely he falls off the ballot than that he gets in.

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