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Paul D's avatar

Can I throw a guy in here? This is going to sound weird, but I actually think Jackie Robinson is underrated.

We all talk about Jackie for the color line reasons - obviously, that's more important than what he did on the field. But Jackie was incredible! I know he won the 1949 MVP and a Rookie of the Year but I actually think he should have won MVPs in 1951 AND 1952. The dude has the second-best WAR per 162 rate of any second baseman after 1900. He's legitimately one of the best players ever, and using my own experience as the test subject, it seems to me like he's talked about as a trailblazer who was also a really good player. Yes - true - but he was REALLY REALLY REALLY GOOD and I think that gets overlooked as we (rightly!) focus on the other things that he did.

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What's interesting about the 2 lists (Joes and Cyrils) is that the players on it for the most part (minus Mays and Henderson of course) don't have that one monster career season to their name.

If a player has even one monster career season, we tend to remember them as better than they were and think of them more in that terms than what they really were. For example think about how we all remember Doc Gooden or Ron Guidry. We immediately think of their 24-4 and 25-3 seasons as the type of player they were when those were instead incredibly fluke outliers. Or think about a slugger who has one monster season of say 40 or 50 homers and we'll always see him referenced in print as a 40 (or 50) homer guy when in fact that was not their normal level of performance.

Finally consider Trammel and Whittaker. Trammel had that incredible season in 87 when the Tigers fell just short of the pennant and he was robbed of the MVP. That season has stuck with voters over the years. Whittaker never had a season like that.

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