Browns 26, Chicago 6 Summary: The most dominant performance by a Browns team since … I can’t remember. The key moment: The opening whistle? The moment the Bears announced Justin Fields would be starting? Maybe when Myles Garrett got mad after last week’s performance? OK, let’s face it, when you outgain your opponent 418-48, there are no key moments.
Belly laughed reading this. It’s one of the reasons I read Joe, the others are: insight, pathos, and giving a damn about his subject, whatever, or whoever it is.
I love reading Joe. Have followed him thruout his trek on the Internet. And I especially enjoyed it-what, maybe 5 years ago- when he started his weekly Brown diary. I’m not a Browns fan (don’t dislike them either), but I thought some of Joe’s best writing was when he was sharing his angst during the Hue Jackson years and then that year followed by the coach whose name I refuse to remember. The heartbreak of Joe came thru so clearly- mirroring that of I’m pretty sure most every Browns fan out there. And I’m really happy for Joe to be able to have his boyhood team become not only respectable but seemingly pretty good. But I have to say it’s not nearly as enjoyable to read his extolling the virtues of the team and individual players as it was to read about the mishaps of the Browns week after week.
Maybe this is proof that for great art to be created, the artist must suffer. So as Joe is not suffering now, the diary just doesn’t have the same zing now. I guess angst sells!
I hope there is at least one game this year where they play like the Browns of Old so Joe can chronicle the despair of the long suffering Browns fans again.
"Uniform presence?" Wow, don't forget to renew your MENSA membership this year. Acting like a comment about uniform design reveals something deep about the author and the subject, and then not being able to type coherently. Well done!
I don't know whether to feel sorry for Justin Fields or for the Bears fans. Probably both. It would have been so much better for Fields if he was able to play behind Andy Dalton & not have to get his soul crushed early in the season before he's ready. And the Bears fans. So excited for Fields, demanding that they start Fields, and well, they got their wish. Ouch. Gonna be a long season in Chicago.
After watching the Browns being on the receiving end of several beat downs over the past 20 plus seasons of the Browns 2.0, this WIN was particularly refreshing.
The offense struggled keeping Baker clean most of the day, but the offense pulled through like a good team should on tough days.
My sympathy to Jack Conklin and Joel Bitonio for being in possibly the worst commercial I have ever seen. Joe is right, it was definitely a very lazy script writer. Joe's re-writes were good, but maybe Mike Schur could redo the whole thing.
Kareem Hunt was caught on video tape physically assaulting a woman and kicking her while she was on the ground. It is, quite literally, the reason he is no longer with KC and why Cleveland was able to obtain him. So, no, it is not "nice to see him have his day" - not yesterday, not tomorrow, not ever. I don't care what team you root for. If there's any karma, the Browns will implode at the worst possible moment for being so craven as to sign this guy.
So - redemption/rehabilitation is not a possibility in your world, sir (or ma'am, as the case may be)? With one drunken act, he has totally forfeited any hope of ever becoming a decent human? By literally all accounts, he has done much to atone for that, and continues to try to be better - as should we all. Let him who is without sin cast the first stone...
I believe in redemption, and wish Hunt every success in becoming a better person. That doesn't mean I have to wish him success on the field. Because I *also* believe the lack of any really consequences for such heinous actions plays a part in perpetuating violence against women. It sends a very clear message that American society is fine with you abusing a woman so long as you're famous enough and/or are important for making other people huge sums of money. You say "Let him who is without sin..." - well, I can say with a clear consequence that I am without sin of that magnitude. And if I ever did something similar, I would deserve to go jail, and would accept that as a just consequence of my actions.
"and would accept that as a just consequence of my actions." Sure you would. You would be kicking and screaming to get out just like everybody else who's ever been in the joint. So, I'm guessing you identify yourself now as what you were when you did the worst thing you've ever done? Or have you done things to make yourself a better human than you were yesterday? Or have you smugly decided that you are an excellent example of a splendidly moral and upright person, to be admired by all for your rectitude, and therefore perfectly qualified to pass judgement on anyone whatsoever? Puh-leeze.
I applaud every attempt of Kareem Hunt to make himself a better person. I refuse to applaud Kareem Hunt as a football player, and actively root against the Cleveland Browns for so opportunistically signing him. There is in fact nothing morally inconsistent about that. Unlike the irony of you judging me based on a few message board comments, while chiding me for having no right to judge Hunt for beating a woman.
It’s really quite pathetic how the new puritans have decided they’re the progressive ones while totally denying the role of rehabilitation and redemption as part of the human story
You can only guess that these ppl would be horrified at the idea that your worst moment be the only way you deserve to be remembered or judged in life if it was applied to them & their loved ones
Belly laughed reading this. It’s one of the reasons I read Joe, the others are: insight, pathos, and giving a damn about his subject, whatever, or whoever it is.
Guy can plain string words together.
Thanks.
I love reading Joe. Have followed him thruout his trek on the Internet. And I especially enjoyed it-what, maybe 5 years ago- when he started his weekly Brown diary. I’m not a Browns fan (don’t dislike them either), but I thought some of Joe’s best writing was when he was sharing his angst during the Hue Jackson years and then that year followed by the coach whose name I refuse to remember. The heartbreak of Joe came thru so clearly- mirroring that of I’m pretty sure most every Browns fan out there. And I’m really happy for Joe to be able to have his boyhood team become not only respectable but seemingly pretty good. But I have to say it’s not nearly as enjoyable to read his extolling the virtues of the team and individual players as it was to read about the mishaps of the Browns week after week.
Maybe this is proof that for great art to be created, the artist must suffer. So as Joe is not suffering now, the diary just doesn’t have the same zing now. I guess angst sells!
I hope there is at least one game this year where they play like the Browns of Old so Joe can chronicle the despair of the long suffering Browns fans again.
I'm no Browns fan either, still, if you get your wish I hope it's not in the Browns last game of the season, whenever that may be!!
Maybe Joel was sending out a subtle message to the Cleveland baseball team that they should take a look at him as a potential two-sport player?
Checking in on the Cleveland Browns is one of my favorite things we do, here at the Posnanski substack. How are they doing? Pretty damn good it seems!
Hooray for helmet numbers!
"Uniform presence?" Wow, don't forget to renew your MENSA membership this year. Acting like a comment about uniform design reveals something deep about the author and the subject, and then not being able to type coherently. Well done!
be funnier next time (or funny at all)
I don't know whether to feel sorry for Justin Fields or for the Bears fans. Probably both. It would have been so much better for Fields if he was able to play behind Andy Dalton & not have to get his soul crushed early in the season before he's ready. And the Bears fans. So excited for Fields, demanding that they start Fields, and well, they got their wish. Ouch. Gonna be a long season in Chicago.
After watching the Browns being on the receiving end of several beat downs over the past 20 plus seasons of the Browns 2.0, this WIN was particularly refreshing.
The offense struggled keeping Baker clean most of the day, but the offense pulled through like a good team should on tough days.
My sympathy to Jack Conklin and Joel Bitonio for being in possibly the worst commercial I have ever seen. Joe is right, it was definitely a very lazy script writer. Joe's re-writes were good, but maybe Mike Schur could redo the whole thing.
"If you don't like our powertrain warranty
You'd have to be a moron, see?"
Kareem Hunt was caught on video tape physically assaulting a woman and kicking her while she was on the ground. It is, quite literally, the reason he is no longer with KC and why Cleveland was able to obtain him. So, no, it is not "nice to see him have his day" - not yesterday, not tomorrow, not ever. I don't care what team you root for. If there's any karma, the Browns will implode at the worst possible moment for being so craven as to sign this guy.
So - redemption/rehabilitation is not a possibility in your world, sir (or ma'am, as the case may be)? With one drunken act, he has totally forfeited any hope of ever becoming a decent human? By literally all accounts, he has done much to atone for that, and continues to try to be better - as should we all. Let him who is without sin cast the first stone...
I believe in redemption, and wish Hunt every success in becoming a better person. That doesn't mean I have to wish him success on the field. Because I *also* believe the lack of any really consequences for such heinous actions plays a part in perpetuating violence against women. It sends a very clear message that American society is fine with you abusing a woman so long as you're famous enough and/or are important for making other people huge sums of money. You say "Let him who is without sin..." - well, I can say with a clear consequence that I am without sin of that magnitude. And if I ever did something similar, I would deserve to go jail, and would accept that as a just consequence of my actions.
"and would accept that as a just consequence of my actions." Sure you would. You would be kicking and screaming to get out just like everybody else who's ever been in the joint. So, I'm guessing you identify yourself now as what you were when you did the worst thing you've ever done? Or have you done things to make yourself a better human than you were yesterday? Or have you smugly decided that you are an excellent example of a splendidly moral and upright person, to be admired by all for your rectitude, and therefore perfectly qualified to pass judgement on anyone whatsoever? Puh-leeze.
I applaud every attempt of Kareem Hunt to make himself a better person. I refuse to applaud Kareem Hunt as a football player, and actively root against the Cleveland Browns for so opportunistically signing him. There is in fact nothing morally inconsistent about that. Unlike the irony of you judging me based on a few message board comments, while chiding me for having no right to judge Hunt for beating a woman.
* clear conscience
It’s really quite pathetic how the new puritans have decided they’re the progressive ones while totally denying the role of rehabilitation and redemption as part of the human story
You can only guess that these ppl would be horrified at the idea that your worst moment be the only way you deserve to be remembered or judged in life if it was applied to them & their loved ones