The Yankees did what they had to do, by getting MLB to give them the 'goldilocks balls' down the stretch and help ensure that Judge broke Maris' HR total.
I hope we get Joe's take on that whole shitshow soon!
How the HELL could I have missed a headline like "N.Y. Yankees disband, arrest and imprison all their fans, and shoot DiMaggio's and Jeter's monuments into the sun"????
Damn, just too many news stories and too many takes. Can't keep up. {SMH}
Didn't Yankee fans boo him in the playoffs THIS YEAR? As in less than two months ago?
What are they going to do when he is a year or two into this contract and the injuries mount up and the homeruns fall down?
I can't help but think the Giants and all those other teams were just bidding up his price to force the Yankees pay more. We all knew they were going to get him one way or the other. They deserve what happens next.
Congrats to the Yankees. Judge belongs in the Bronx. But, they haven’t improved their team. So far, they are putting up the same lineup that got swept by the Astros plus Tommy Kahnle.
I guess if you look at the totality of Judge’s career, it all evens out. From a production standpoint the Yankees will be overpaying him for several years at the end of his career after getting a bargain at the beginning.
The real problem for the Yankees is what they have around Judge, and how much they’ll be willing to spend after adding his $40 million to the $70 million or so they owe Stanton, Josh Donaldson, and Anthony Rizzo next year.
1) Signing your favorite player away from your team
2) Beating you with them
3) Being utterly joyless in the process
I don't necessarily think that signing bad contracts to keep their players is a defining part of the franchise. If the Yankees had spent the Judge money on two other very good players, and Judge had gone and busted for the Mets, that would have been the most YANKEES outcome possible.
They signed a bad contract to keep A-Rod when he opted out during the World Series that one year, maybe '07. He had just had is last monster year, opted out, got an even bigger extension, and then proceeded to embarrass them the rest of the way. Judge is not the same kind of guy as A-Rod, but the contract will surely wind up being the same.
The players listed that were lifetime Yankees with the notable exception of Jeter didn’t have the free agency opportunity to leave, so the list is largely disingenuous. Even Jeter was long before the salaries escalated to what they are now. I think the Yankees had a choice and will regret this signing sooner than later.
I agree they had to keep him. Unlike you, I am a Yankee fan. Back end of the deal will suck except for public relations but he means so much more than just being a great player, he's also a great ambassador for the Yankees and the game. Yanks saw that right away, they built Judge's corner before he was an established star. Where we disagree is that $213.5 million was a low ball offer. I agree that the Yanks should not have gone public with it, but it was generous at the time. If he missed 40 games this year and hit 30 HRs, he would have been looking at a similar deal to the one offered pre-season. Its only because he had a historic year that he "earned" another 2 years and an extra 9.5 million per AAV. Works out for both teams because Yanks probably made 50 million extra on him last year with his chase.
Agree completely about last year's offer. Yankees decision to roll the dice on the offer made sense given his age (already 30), size, and injury history. He just happened to hit on a season for the ages in his walk year, when (as Joe rightly noted), the Yankees simply could not let him leave. As a Yankee fan, I'm glad Judge put some value on having a retired number 99 and a plaque in Monument Park.
But if they just visit the injured list 4 times every year and are only partially healthy when playing they get their full salary, no insurance coverage (typically).
glad the Giants did not get him - an overpriced giant who will not last the term of his contract.
The Yankees did what they had to do, by getting MLB to give them the 'goldilocks balls' down the stretch and help ensure that Judge broke Maris' HR total.
I hope we get Joe's take on that whole shitshow soon!
Wow, we found someone who dislikes the Yankees as much as Joe!
"The Yankees Did What They Had to Do"
Wait, what?! When?
How the HELL could I have missed a headline like "N.Y. Yankees disband, arrest and imprison all their fans, and shoot DiMaggio's and Jeter's monuments into the sun"????
Damn, just too many news stories and too many takes. Can't keep up. {SMH}
Preach. No lies detected.
Didn't Yankee fans boo him in the playoffs THIS YEAR? As in less than two months ago?
What are they going to do when he is a year or two into this contract and the injuries mount up and the homeruns fall down?
I can't help but think the Giants and all those other teams were just bidding up his price to force the Yankees pay more. We all knew they were going to get him one way or the other. They deserve what happens next.
This has to be the worst contract in the history of MLB. Judge is huge and injury prone and has maybe two good years left in him.
Congrats to the Yankees. Judge belongs in the Bronx. But, they haven’t improved their team. So far, they are putting up the same lineup that got swept by the Astros plus Tommy Kahnle.
Akin to many, around the turn of 1970, thinking the band was named Tommy, not The Who.
I guess if you look at the totality of Judge’s career, it all evens out. From a production standpoint the Yankees will be overpaying him for several years at the end of his career after getting a bargain at the beginning.
The real problem for the Yankees is what they have around Judge, and how much they’ll be willing to spend after adding his $40 million to the $70 million or so they owe Stanton, Josh Donaldson, and Anthony Rizzo next year.
The contract is going to age like cheese left on top of a radiator.
In theory. He had nine PAs with the Mets in 1965
My prediction: The Yankees will name Judge as Yankee Captain on July 4, 2023, the anniversary of Lou Gehrig's "Luckiest Man" speech.
I think the things that define THE YANKEES are:
1) Signing your favorite player away from your team
2) Beating you with them
3) Being utterly joyless in the process
I don't necessarily think that signing bad contracts to keep their players is a defining part of the franchise. If the Yankees had spent the Judge money on two other very good players, and Judge had gone and busted for the Mets, that would have been the most YANKEES outcome possible.
They signed a bad contract to keep A-Rod when he opted out during the World Series that one year, maybe '07. He had just had is last monster year, opted out, got an even bigger extension, and then proceeded to embarrass them the rest of the way. Judge is not the same kind of guy as A-Rod, but the contract will surely wind up being the same.
Here’s another: prioritizing history and legacy above winning.
The players listed that were lifetime Yankees with the notable exception of Jeter didn’t have the free agency opportunity to leave, so the list is largely disingenuous. Even Jeter was long before the salaries escalated to what they are now. I think the Yankees had a choice and will regret this signing sooner than later.
I agree they had to keep him. Unlike you, I am a Yankee fan. Back end of the deal will suck except for public relations but he means so much more than just being a great player, he's also a great ambassador for the Yankees and the game. Yanks saw that right away, they built Judge's corner before he was an established star. Where we disagree is that $213.5 million was a low ball offer. I agree that the Yanks should not have gone public with it, but it was generous at the time. If he missed 40 games this year and hit 30 HRs, he would have been looking at a similar deal to the one offered pre-season. Its only because he had a historic year that he "earned" another 2 years and an extra 9.5 million per AAV. Works out for both teams because Yanks probably made 50 million extra on him last year with his chase.
Agree completely about last year's offer. Yankees decision to roll the dice on the offer made sense given his age (already 30), size, and injury history. He just happened to hit on a season for the ages in his walk year, when (as Joe rightly noted), the Yankees simply could not let him leave. As a Yankee fan, I'm glad Judge put some value on having a retired number 99 and a plaque in Monument Park.
If the Yankees hadn't stabbed Yogi in the back he'd be one of those HOF one team guys
He was.
If they quit/retire they don’t get paid. I’d they’re injured and can’t play because of injury it is paid by insurance.
But if they just visit the injured list 4 times every year and are only partially healthy when playing they get their full salary, no insurance coverage (typically).