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How can you include a section about last-minute holiday shopping and NOT include a link to where we can acquire that wonderful, wonderful sticker?

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Saying "we know nothing" is at best a deliberate obfuscation, at worst an out and out lie.

We have the Mitchell Report, we have the Balco Case. We have reporting on the Biogenesis scandal. We have congressional testimony and we have a ton of simple admissions. Certainly there are gaps in the reporting in spots, but those gaps can close.

Witness Sosa, who to my mind prior to yesterday, had had a devil's advocate case for being clean

No longer, though.

And Sosa is a good exemplar. We didn't know. But we kinda knew. And we were right.

Seems to me it's a completely fair approach to take a punitive tack with those found guilty (comparatively--it's Keep 'em out of the Hall, not jail time, after all) combined with a high bar for evidence, where for example, mention in one of Canseco's books or even persistent rumors is not considered sufficient.

And that can only be a realistic approach if we don't in fact "know nothing."

I should also say that the thing about Dave Parker taking cocaine by the thimbleful is that his doing so did not put other players in danger. But every player who decided to take PEDS increased the necessity for others--rookies, AAAers, 25th men-- to at least consider their use.

There were of course many average to below average players who used PEDS, and if you said they'd been largely forgotten, you'd probably be right. But you can at least make a case that the marginal damage the average players did was much less than that done by the famous, ultra-talented guys, whose decision to use tipped the scales on the decisions made by many many more. So shining the bright light on them is *not* unfair but just the way it should be.

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