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Re: the 14 pitchers used -- MLB should think about eliminating ANY warmup pitches when a reliever comes into the game in mid-inning. He's already warmed up. Basketball substitutes don't get to take 8 shots when they come in. Hockey, over the boards you go. Football, go, you're in the game. This reliever warmup thing is a holdover from a long time ago when games were played in pastures and the warmup mounds were crap. The bullpen mounds are pristine now. It's just a tradition that no one ever thinks about. Every mid-inning change is 2 to 2 1/2 minutes. It adds up.

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The Alex Gordon comp is an interesting one, especially because he had, in my mind, such an odd career arc, and yet somehow managed to come out as praiseworthy for it.

He was a first round pick, #2 overall, just after Justin Upton, and ahead of eventual MVPs Ryan Braun and Andrew McCutchen, and franchise icons Ryan Zimmerman and Troy Tulowitzki. He was a semi-local boy (Nebraska) who got a $4M signing bonus to basically become the next George Brett. He tore up AA pitching in 2006 and they skipped him right to the majors in 2007 for good, but he couldn't hack it at third and after a few years of flailing, he reinvented himself as a Gold Glove left fielder. He had modestly good skills across the board but was not really outstanding at anything but defense, and that only from 2011-14.

Meanwhile, the year after Gordon was drafted, the Yankees picked up a late 3rd rounder out of a liberal arts college in South Carolina that had never (and still hasn't) produced any other notable baseball talent, and he spent a largely parallel career basically playing as well or better than Gordon while making about $30M less.

Gordon was feted by the Royals in 2020 during his swan song season - they even mowed his #4 in the outfield grass - and given all kinds of accolades, including a video tribute, on his way to retirement.

Meanwhile, Brett Gardner simply remained unsigned coming into 2022. No word, no fanfare, no farewell tour, no nothing. But he was a demonstrably better player for a (usually) better team than Gordon. During Gordon's last 4 seasons, Gardner outplayed him in defense - 3.7 dWAR to 0.4 - but it's Gordon, not Gardy, who got the party.

https://stathead.com/tiny/rus2z

BB Ref rates Gardy as ~10 WAR better than Gordon over the course of his career, despite playing in 65 fewer games. They both had very similar BA and OBP. Gordon had a little more power (12 points of SLG, FWIW) but Gardner was a much better baserunner and was worth about twice as much defensively (12.9 dWAR compared to 6.6), playing the same position, even though Gordon took home more hardware (8 Gold Gloves compared to just 1 for Gardner).

My issue with this is not that I think Gardner deserved to have a Mariano-style farewell tour or an additional thirty million bucks. It's that I can't get my mind around how many accolades Gordon receives for what seems to me should be considered a disappointing career. If a 3rd round draft pick who got a relative pittance to sign ($210K) can out-perform a #2 overall pick for a decade and a half, does the #2 pick really deserve so much acclaim?

He was expected (rightly or no) to be the next George Brett, but he hit .300 in a season only once. He led the AL in something of import exactly once: 51 doubles in 2012. He never even amassed 190 hits in a season, and for his career finished with a shade over half of Brett's total (which, admittedly, were a lot, but still). He hit 20+ HR in a season just twice (as many as Gardner!), never drove in 90 RBI and scored 100 runs just once. He got down-ballot MVP consideration twice, and made 3 (deserved) All-Star teams, but only got an at-bat in one of them.

So maybe the expectations weren't reasonable for Gordon. Heck, nobody is the next George Brett, let's just admit that. Not Gordon, not Witt Jr., nobody. Maybe it's too much to put that pressure on anybody. But at the same time, how does Gordon manage to get so much credit for failing to live up to the hype and re-making himself as a modestly successful player at a much easier defensive position?? Players like that don't grow on trees exactly, but his comps (Lloyd Moseby, Brady Anderson, Shin Soo Choo, Don Money, Roy White) are hardly exciting. Are midwesterners really that forgiving?

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