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OK, let’s talk about that fourth out play: You can see it here starting at 10:57:
Here’s the situation, best I can understand it: Seventh inning, Red Sox down 2-0 to Toronto, they have Connor Wong on first and Anthony Seigler on third with one out. I don’t have any idea why Anthony Seigler spells his name E before I since his name doesn’t start with a C, but we don’t have time to go into that right now.
No, what we need to say right now is that even though there was only one out, they had two outs listed on the scoreboard and the players on the field — both teams — seemed pretty certain that there were two outs. Why? I’m guessing, but on the previous play Nick Sogard smashed a line drive to first and, at first, it looked like Vladdy Jr. caught it out of the air. He then fired to second where, at least for an instant, it looked like he’d doubled off the Red Sox runner.
But Vladdy didn’t actually catch the ball. So the throw to first didn’t double off anyone — it was just a one-out forceout. That left runners on first and third with one out.
On the next play, Cedanne Rafaela lofted an easy fly ball to center. Brett Bateman pulled it in and all at once a bunch of things became clear:
Thing 1: Bateman thought there were two outs because he caught the ball in a leisurely way, even though Seigler on third was likely to tag up.
Thing 2: Seigler, on third base, thought there were two outs, so he didn’t tag up — he just jogged home.
Thing 3: Wong, on first base, thought there were two outs, so he just ran to second and even rounded the bag and headed for third.
Thing 4: The Blue Jays, finally realizing that there were not two outs, threw to first to double off Wong.
Thing 5: This is key: The Blue Jays jogged off the field because the inning was over. Why is this key? Because if they had not jogged off the field, they could have actually appealed the play at third and gotten Seigler, even though the third out had been recorded.
That’s the beloved fourth-out rule.
It’s Rule 5.09(c): “Appeal plays may require an umpire to recognize an apparent ‘fourth out.’ If the third out is made during a play in which an appeal play is sustained on another runner, the appeal play decision takes precedence in determining the out.”
But here’s the thing: In order to appeal the play at third, the Blue Jays had to stay on the field. Once they’d crossed the third base line, they were no longer allowed to appeal the tag-up play at third. And because Seigler scored before Wong was ruled out, the run counted — even though Seigler scored on an illegal non-tag.
The good folks at MLB.com found the last time a play like this happened. It was April 12, 2009, in a Dodgers-Diamondbacks game, and it was — if possible — even weirder. In this case, there were runners on second and third with one out, and everybody KNEW that there was only one out. Randy Wolf was hitting for Los Angeles, and he poked a line drive back to Dan Haren, who grabbed it and threw to second, where the Dodgers calmly doubled off the runner. Then they ran off the field.
But the Dodgers’ Andre Ethier had taken off with the pitch, and he scored BEFORE the Dodgers tagged out Juan Pierre to end the inning.
I mean, how can you not be romantic about baseball?
Here’s the most glorious thing about that play: no one knew what was going on, not the play-by-play guys (on the Toronto feed at any rate, not the crowd, not the players. Who knew? Max Scherzer! That’s who! Because he was on the Diamondbacks for that 2009 game, and he remembers it like it was yesterday!
First, it wasn’t Wong. Wong was erased on Vlad’s throw to 2B. So it was the batter (Sogard) on 1st, and Seigler on 3rd. IF VLAD HAD CAUGHT the line drive, it would have been impossible for Sogard to be on 1st, right? So how does he not know that?? And Seigler ran on THAT ball too, so he would have been doubled off 2nd. So HOW IS IT POSSIBLE that neither player would think that there are 2 outs?? Mind-boggling.
And I think Seigler even said today that the 3rd base coach told him there was 1 out. So why did you run? Everybody else was acting like there were two outs! Good Grief!!